# About real Governance **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [June 7, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945 "2024-06-07T04:38:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/rian/32/3207_2.png) [@rian](https://forum.astar.network/u/rian)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/1 "2024-06-07T04:38:23Z")
I don’t think the current forum really focuses on governance. I think voting rights should be strengthened based on the amount of staked governance token (ASTR) like in other projects. Currently, anyone can express their opinion on the Astar forum. That’s great, but it’s just a “bulletin board” not a true “vote.” When will on-chain governance be implemented? I think we should use a site like Snapshot. There’s no need to create our own site. ---
**Author:** ![you425](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/you425/32/3313_2.png) [@you425](https://forum.astar.network/u/you425)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 7:25am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/2 "2024-06-07T07:25:42Z")
Hello! Yes, the transition to on-chain governance is a must. Forum serves as a bridge to on-chain governance. This is because it is risky to go to on-chain governance from the beginning. Development and testing is currently underway to migrate to Townhall for on-chain governance, and there is talk of full-scale testing first in Shiden. > **[Astar Network | Townhall Community](https://astargov.com/astar)** > > Astar Network connects you to web3. It is the gateway for projects across enterprises, entertainment & gaming in Japan and beyond, driving global adoption and delivering web3 to billions. Astar leverages a multi-layered tech stack powered by... Townhall is simply like a Forum with on-chain governance used in the Polkadot family. Think of it as an extension of the Forum’s functionality. For more information, I suggest you take a look at the following two threads. > [@Setting Astar Network community and governance culture](https://forum.astar.network/t/setting-astar-network-community-and-governance-culture/6601): > > TL;DR I left Astar Foundation to create and propose Astar governance as a community member. The network engagement and governance activity do not reflect the increase in Astar’s public presence; only a few people are engaged with the network. The lack of clarity in our community culture makes introducing a functioning governance for Astar hard. People should be more aware of what projects they support through dApps Staking. Treasury spending should be evaluated based on the network’s return on … > [@Astar Governance Technical Specification Proposal](https://forum.astar.network/t/astar-governance-technical-specification-proposal/6692): > > Preface Hello, dear Astar community. This is Hoon, the former Chief Technology Officer of Astar Foundation, and now the Chief Technically is still working on the network Officer of Astar Network. This is the second of three main posts regarding Astar Governance modeling. The first post discussed [Astar community culture](https://forum.astar.network/t/setting-astar-network-community-and-governance-culture/6601) and how we should view dApp Staking and the community treasury. For casual and long-term community members passionate about the network’s governance, you should read that post,… ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_sama](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/gaius_sama/32/4741_2.png) [@Gaius\_sama](https://forum.astar.network/u/Gaius_sama)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/3 "2024-06-07T12:29:27Z")
Hello @rian It’s good to see this topic being raised. In fact, we’re already working on the on-chain’s governance, but in the meantime we’ve decided to migrate the forum’s voting mechanism to Astar townhall, an off-chain voting platform where ASTR holders can participate in governance decisions using their ASTR tokens. You can follow the topic in this discussion: [Astar Townhall - Offchain Governance](https://forum.astar.network/t/astar-townhall-offchain-governance/6950) ---
**Author:** ![rian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/rian/32/3207_2.png) [@rian](https://forum.astar.network/u/rian)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/4 "2024-06-07T16:05:44Z")
I understand. We need to quickly operate a DAO according to global standards and give rights to ASTR holders. ---
**Author:** ![ERC20s](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/erc20s/32/34_2.png) [@ERC20s](https://forum.astar.network/u/ERC20s)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/5 "2024-06-08T10:51:04Z")
I have been an advocate for an ASTR on-chain dao. But recently I’m more in favour of giving voting power to those that participate and build the ecosystem. When the token is the main value in a dao there is a problem with Autonomy. We should reward the people that have built the project rather than those that can buy a large supply to pass a proposal. I recommend a “Percentage-based voting structure” Example: 25% is ASTR 25% is DEVs 20% is FORUM MEMBERS 15% is ASTR TEAM 15% is DISCORD/X/TELEGRAM users ---
**Author:** ![rian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/rian/32/3207_2.png) [@rian](https://forum.astar.network/u/rian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/6 "2024-06-08T15:34:11Z")
I think that we should completely use governance tokens as voting power, like OP and Starknet. There will always be users who create multiple free accounts, so voting power should be given according to the amount of Dapps steaking. ---
**Author:** ![rian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/rian/32/3207_2.png) [@rian](https://forum.astar.network/u/rian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/7 "2024-06-08T15:35:42Z")
It doesn’t have to be equal, it should be “fair.” ---
**Author:** ![ERC20s](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/erc20s/32/34_2.png) [@ERC20s](https://forum.astar.network/u/ERC20s)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/8 "2024-06-08T15:50:25Z")
So the free accounts thing can be fought against. For example: Anyone that has a github repository that mentions ASTAR before 08/06/2024 get’s 1,000,000 ASTR worth of power. Let’s say there are 100 people like that. Then those 100 can get extra power. And they can vote for the 25% The reason I suggest this is: 1. Broke Devs don’t get any say in how the platform that they built is run. 2. Devs know what is technically possible with governance. 3. Reward devs. If someone bots X accounts for example… We get a bigger social following 😆 And we can vote to reduce the 15% to 1% or 0% if it gets out of control. Binance maybe holds more ASTR than we can all vote against and they can just pass proposals easily. Like what happened to steem… > **[Why Crypto Should Care About Justin Sun's Steem Drama](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2020/03/02/why-crypto-should-care-about-justin-suns-steem-drama/)** > > The implications reach much further than just Steem or Tron, underlining the fundamental message of the "not your keys, not your crypto" mantra. ---
**Author:** ![rian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/rian/32/3207_2.png) [@rian](https://forum.astar.network/u/rian)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/9 "2024-06-08T17:45:41Z")
That’s certainly a great idea. It’s true that a few whales often control everything. But the current voting system should change. I’m in favor of empowering developers, but I think there are some developers in dapps steaking who are not beneficial to Astar. ---
**Author:** ![ERC20s](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/erc20s/32/34_2.png) [@ERC20s](https://forum.astar.network/u/ERC20s)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/10 "2024-06-08T18:40:04Z")
I look forward to seeing the on-chain governance that is currently being worked on. Hope to see you there 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Juminstock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/juminstock/32/5942_2.png) [@Juminstock](https://forum.astar.network/u/Juminstock)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/11 "2024-06-10T13:04:10Z")
I find the conversation happening here extremely interesting and worth reading, which is why I recommend moving it to the townhall thread, as Gaiuss mentioned. > [@Gaius\_sama](#): > > You can follow the topic in this discussion: [Astar Townhall - Offchain Governance](https://forum.astar.network/t/astar-townhall-offchain-governance/6950) ---
**Author:** ![Shivam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/shivam/32/4052_2.png) [@Shivam](https://forum.astar.network/u/Shivam)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 7:14am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/about-real-governance/6945/12 "2024-07-02T07:14:04Z")
Hey @rian I believe ,you have raised a great point , the transition to on-chain governance is must.