# Solving the complexity of moving SDN from and to Metamask **URL:** \ **Category:** Shiden Network (Kusama)\ **Created:** [October 28, 2021, 6:39am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/solving-the-complexity-of-moving-sdn-from-and-to-metamask/1940 "2021-10-28T06:39:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mandrake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@Mandrake](https://forum.astar.network/u/Mandrake)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 6:39am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/solving-the-complexity-of-moving-sdn-from-and-to-metamask/1940/1 "2021-10-28T06:39:08Z")
FACT As we are having issues about marketing and about our product (SDN) understanding (otherwise market should be already aware about its value), we need to make it easy for a “normal” user to transfer token Substrate \<\> Metamask; just to make more attractive SDN use case. PROPOSAL We need to create a interface (WebPage) connected with both (Polkadot.js and Metamask extensions) in order to make it possibile automatically to transfer SDN from SS58 to H160 and viceversa. Now it needs to use a web page for converting addresses and doing all manually. Yesterday I tried H160 \> SS58 transfer and it’s too complicated for a normal user. Our developers can create for sure an user interface in which all this procedures can be done by a sigle click (authorization on polkadot.js or metamask) TARGET Improving usability and user friendly interface in order to enhance the users’ usage , so the volumes, so the entire protocol value; overall now that apps are starting to run (like Standard Protocol) ---
**Author:** ![Royal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@Royal](https://forum.astar.network/u/Royal)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/solving-the-complexity-of-moving-sdn-from-and-to-metamask/1940/2 "2021-10-28T06:47:02Z")
There is already a proposal similar to this. I like this and support your proposal. ---
**Author:** ![moonme](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/moonme/32/470_2.png) [@moonme](https://forum.astar.network/u/moonme)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/solving-the-complexity-of-moving-sdn-from-and-to-metamask/1940/3 "2021-10-28T06:47:32Z")
A discussion already started here. Can you move the topic there instead? > [@Specialized wallet for Astar/Shiden](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932): > > Hi all. I this topic, I want to discuss a specialized wallet (or tool) for Astar/Shiden. As we all know Astar supports both EVM and WASM. This is a great advantage, but at the same time, this is a reason of some UX problems. Users need to transfer tokens between 2 types of wallet (SS58 \> H160) permanently and this is not so fast (we already have this 2 perfect (and long) guides:[What wallet should I use to store SDN (Shiden Network) tokens? | by Toga Mamora | Sep, 2021 | Medium](https://mamora-toga.medium.com/what-wallet-should-i-use-to-store-sdn-shiden-network-tokens-b4c609b48e1) + [Shiden Network…](https://stakenode.medium.com/shiden-network-evm-tutorial-819da3798f45) ---
**Author:** ![Mandrake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@Mandrake](https://forum.astar.network/u/Mandrake)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 6:59am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/solving-the-complexity-of-moving-sdn-from-and-to-metamask/1940/4 "2021-10-28T06:59:49Z")
This is a quick win… No way to lose time anymore… Who might not agree with ? So it’s only a matter of developers working on it. Technically it’s something possibile to develop . ---
**Author:** ![Maarten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/maarten/32/4735_2.png) [@Maarten](https://forum.astar.network/u/Maarten)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/solving-the-complexity-of-moving-sdn-from-and-to-metamask/1940/5 "2021-10-28T08:34:00Z")
Let’s continue the discussion in this thread: > [@Specialized wallet for Astar/Shiden](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932): > > Hi all. I this topic, I want to discuss a specialized wallet (or tool) for Astar/Shiden. As we all know Astar supports both EVM and WASM. This is a great advantage, but at the same time, this is a reason of some UX problems. Users need to transfer tokens between 2 types of wallet (SS58 \> H160) permanently and this is not so fast (we already have this 2 perfect (and long) guides:[What wallet should I use to store SDN (Shiden Network) tokens? | by Toga Mamora | Sep, 2021 | Medium](https://mamora-toga.medium.com/what-wallet-should-i-use-to-store-sdn-shiden-network-tokens-b4c609b48e1) + [Shiden Network…](https://stakenode.medium.com/shiden-network-evm-tutorial-819da3798f45) ---
**Author:** ![Maarten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/maarten/32/4735_2.png) [@Maarten](https://forum.astar.network/u/Maarten)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/solving-the-complexity-of-moving-sdn-from-and-to-metamask/1940/6 "2021-10-28T08:34:07Z")