# Specialized wallet for Astar/Shiden

**URL:** <https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [October 26, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932 "2021-10-26T19:45:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![igporoshin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/igporoshin/32/1430_2.png) [@igporoshin](https://forum.astar.network/u/igporoshin)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932/1 "2021-10-26T19:45:02Z")

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Hi all.

I this topic, I want to discuss a specialized wallet (or tool) for Astar/Shiden.

As we all know Astar supports both EVM and WASM. This is a great advantage, but at the same time, this is a reason of some UX problems. Users need to transfer tokens between 2 types of wallet (SS58 \> H160) permanently and this is not so fast (we already have this 2 perfect (and long) guides:[What wallet should I use to store SDN (Shiden Network) tokens? | by Toga Mamora | Sep, 2021 | Medium](https://mamora-toga.medium.com/what-wallet-should-i-use-to-store-sdn-shiden-network-tokens-b4c609b48e1) + [Shiden Network EVM Tutorial. In this quick guide, I will show You… | by Stakenode | Sep, 2021 | Medium](https://stakenode.medium.com/shiden-network-evm-tutorial-819da3798f45))

As long as creation of some kind of unified (SS58 + H160) accounts is impossible, development of specialized wallet for the Astar/Shiden looks like a good decision. Functionality of this wallet/tool may look like this: user creates 2 addresses (SS58 and H160) automatically during the registration (or user adds H160 account bit later) and then the user can transfer funds from one to another with only 1 button. This 2 addresses can be linked to each other inside this wallet/tool.

Also for a better UX during the interaction with dApps it must be a browser extension.

**What are the possible decisions?**

1. Polkadot.js customization;
2. Other browser extension customization (I didn’t find anything except Polkadot.js tbh)
3. Development of a new wallet from scratch.
4. Specialized tool inside the Astar portal.
5. …. what else?

From the time/expenditures/quality side of this question it would be great to find an experienced team with the working wallet (especially Polkadot. js) and grant them via the Builders Program.

Development of a new wallet from scratch may be too expensive and long. Specialized tool inside the Astar portal it is an interim solution, I think.

What do you think?

It is an important question for the future Astar adoption and I would happy to help solve it.

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**Author:** ![WANGFROG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@WANGFROG](https://forum.astar.network/u/WANGFROG)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932/2 "2021-10-27T00:39:02Z")

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that sounds good chance and idea,do best try do it ,

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**Author:** ![moonme](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/moonme/32/470_2.png) [@moonme](https://forum.astar.network/u/moonme)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932/3 "2021-10-27T00:53:34Z")

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I’m thinking that the special tool on Astar Portal as a good idea.

Like, you can connect both polkadot and evm wallet. Whatever address conversion is done on the background instead of manually. So you can send from js. to evm with one click.

Same goes with sending from evm to js. One click to send and then after that, another click to confirm the withdrawal from evm module to js.

Let’s gather as much info as possible and we can forward this to the developers.

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**Author:** ![igporoshin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/igporoshin/32/1430_2.png) [@igporoshin](https://forum.astar.network/u/igporoshin)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932/4 "2021-10-27T20:46:24Z")

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Not sure it is a good decision in a long run. Users still need to interact with a 3rd party tool before they can do something with a dApp.

Pros:

— Independence from a 3rd party wallets (no need to cooperate with them)  
— Maybe it´s a faster decision. (?)

Cons:

— Core team needs to spend time on it. Not sure it is in a roadmap;  
— **One extra step for users.**

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**Author:** ![moonme](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/moonme/32/470_2.png) [@moonme](https://forum.astar.network/u/moonme)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932/5 "2021-10-28T06:49:50Z")

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Being in 2 different environments will be tricky. I guess this will be ongoing until the majority starts to adopt WASM.

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**Author:** ![Maarten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/maarten/32/4735_2.png) [@Maarten](https://forum.astar.network/u/Maarten)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932/6 "2021-10-28T08:36:25Z")

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This can easily be done by other developers.  
The code to create is this is out there. They can create a PR on our portal to integrate.

We are more than happy to support them from our Community Reward pool.

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**Author:** ![igporoshin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/igporoshin/32/1430_2.png) [@igporoshin](https://forum.astar.network/u/igporoshin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 8:40am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932/7 "2021-10-28T08:40:52Z")

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What kind of developers needed for this? (languages)

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**Author:** ![Maarten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/maarten/32/4735_2.png) [@Maarten](https://forum.astar.network/u/Maarten)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932/8 "2021-10-28T08:46:29Z")

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Please check here:

> **[GitHub - PlasmNetwork/astar-apps: The official Astar Network portal for...](https://github.com/PlasmNetwork/astar-apps)**
>
> The official Astar Network portal for accessing your tokens and other native features! - GitHub - PlasmNetwork/astar-apps: The official Astar Network portal for accessing your tokens and other nati...

> **[GitHub - polkadot-js/api: Promise and RxJS APIs around Polkadot and any...](https://github.com/polkadot-js/api)**
>
> Promise and RxJS APIs around Polkadot and any Substrate-based chain RPC calls. It is dynamically generated based on what the Substrate runtime provides in terms of metadata. Full documentation &...

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**Author:** ![Parker27](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.astar.network/parker27/32/664_2.png) [@Parker27](https://forum.astar.network/u/Parker27)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.astar.network/t/specialized-wallet-for-astar-shiden/1932/9 "2021-10-30T16:55:43Z")

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Please good, make a wallet in the dashboard to make this process simple and intrinsic for the user … conversion just make the things worse, annoying and so dificult.
