Proposal to Change ASTR Tokenomics to Fixed Supply

[AstarPunks]

@Gaius_sama
I am happy to be able to discuss this with you.
I have been a fan of Astar since its release, the first public chain created in Japan, and it has a wonderful mechanism called Dapp Staking, and I sincerely hope for the success of the Astar chain.
I don’t intend to lose to anyone when it comes to my feelings for the Astar Chain!
I look forward to your continued guidance and encouragement!

@Gaius_sama

The Foundation is also actively considering this matter, and we plan to open it for broader community discussion soon. That said, we want to emphasize the importance of maintaining high-quality dApps within dApp Staking.

In other words, the Foundation has recognized that the Community Treasury and Astar Core Contributors have remained Tier 1 or Tier 2 since the release, which may have undermined the reliability of developer support for Dapp Staking.
I don’t understand why members of the Community Council and Core Team would conclude that Dapp Staking is a failure before resolving these issues.

Also, after reading my discussion so far, do you think I lack understanding of the importance of maintaining high quality dApps in dApp staking?

@AstarPunks

And since you probably didn’t understand the proposal I made, I will answer the four points you raised here.

• The database would have to rely on information provided by the dApps themselves — meaning we’re ultimately dependent on what they choose to disclose.
  → We require all developers to have data that allows us to track development progress, such as roadmaps, specifications, and github read permissions.

• On-chain metrics only work for a specific group of dApps.
  → I think it is possible to track the dapp groups you need by interacting with the Astar collator, rather than relying solely on existing applications like dapp radar.

• The time and effort required to constantly report and share data may not be a priority for many teams, especially when the rewards aren’t significant enough to justify it.
  → Dapp developers do not need to send data continuously. They should not be trusted as they may tamper with the data to protect themselves. What is needed is monitoring.

• Marketing is a highly subjective metric — we recently had an example of a dApp that, for many, seemed like a marketing success story with strong community support, yet it turned out to be just another rug.
  → The problem was that the definition of the marketing indicators was wrong. We need to define the correct marketing indicators so that we can track them.

Isn’t the problem that the mechanisms for maintaining high quality dApps in dApp staking led by the Community Council are not working?

@pitcoin777

@AstarPunks

If the Community Council’s dapps evaluation work well, won’t this problem be solved?

And since there were voices saying that it wasn’t working well in the Japanese community, we proposed a mechanism to track DApp development progress and marketing indicators.

In reality, not much changes… Making dApp staking permissive only opens the door for lazy teams and early-stage seed projects to dominate. On the other hand, making dApp staking exclusive to top-tier projects isn’t financially attractive for them.

For example, Alt Layer and Kyo Finance from the Soneium ecosystem are currently applying for Dapp Staking.

AltLayer - dApp Staking Application

Introduction Hello Astar Community, We’re excited to submit our application to the Astar dApp Staking program and introduce AltLayer, the company that manages and operates a Fast Finality Layer for Soneium. Soneium’s fast finality layer uses ASTR and restaked ETH for economic security. This proposal is a strategic step towards embedding ASTR at the core of Soneium’s rollup infrastructure, enhancing its utility on Soneium and helping expand the role and utility of ASTR token in the broader ecos…

Kyo finance - dApp Staking Application

1. Introduction Hello dear Astar Community, We’re delighted to submit suggestion for the next round of Astar dApp Staking and to share how Kyo Finance on Soneium can deepen ASTR’s real-world utility. Kyo Finance is already the #1 liquidity and trading hub on Soneium. In its first four months before any token emissions, it delivered $457M in cumulative volume and 27M on-chain swaps. By integrating ASTR directly into our governance, incentives, and cross-chain liquidity plans, we can turn Kyo i…

So what is the Community Council doing to maintain high-quality dApps?
There are a lot of positive comments in the thread above (I agree).
But I don’t know what the Community Council is doing to evaluate high-quality DApps.
Please tell us specifically.

@Gaius_sama

From our analysis, many stakers choose to stake on Core Contributors or the Community Treasury because these options are seen as trusted and reliable. Since occasional stakers often don’t have the time or context to research every project in detail, they naturally gravitate toward entities they recognize and trust. As a result, lower-performing or less-transparent applications tend to receive significantly less support.

Your analysis is clearly accurate.
In fact, I also believe that staking destinations with the Astar icon are unlikely to be delisted and are the most reliable staking destinations, so I have been staking there ever since Astar was released.
In retrospect, this is probably an obstacle to dapps developers.

@Gaius_sama

However, this is a separate issue from the Tokenomics 3.0 proposal. @AstarPunks, please refrain from merging these discussions. The current topic is focused specifically on the proposed changes to ASTR’s tokenomics (e.g., moving to a fixed supply).

I don’t understand this opinion.

Tokenmics 3.0 means the gradual abolition of Dapp Staking, and core team members and community council members have mentioned that Dapp Staking was a failure.
I am arguing that even if that were the case, there were obvious operational problems and the true capabilities of Dapp Staking could not be measured.

And other people besides me have also mentioned Dapp Staking, right? Core team members, community council members, and other agents.
Why did you only pay attention to me? Please give me a logical answer.

@Gaius_sama

Let’s stay on topic to keep the conversation productive and focused.

Is my argument unproductive and off-topic?
Being productive means having a discussion to find a good direction for the Astar chain, Therefore it doesn’t mean we can’t voice our opposition to this proposal, right?
If I can logically agree with this proposal, I will support it.
If I cannot logically agree with it, I will argue against it. Of course.
This is a natural attitude for me as I aim to become an Astar technical agent.

What I would like to know most is whether the core team has any concrete ideas on building a developer support mechanism beyond dapp staking while executing tokenmics 3.0.

@Mingshi

This isn’t to discount the value of past efforts — many builders have benefited from it. But in today’s evolving Web3 landscape, maybe it’s time we rethink how we support developers. Instead of relying solely on inflationary rewards, we can explore more targeted, performance-aligned models that drive lasting growth.

The idea isn’t to abandon support — it’s to evolve the mechanism to ensure it’s sustainable, effective, and future-proof.

To keep the conversation productive, we welcome your input as a member of the Core Team and Community Council. @Gaius_sama