I see, I think we misunderstood each other.
My comment was aimed at it not being important for the staker.
For the solutions suggested by Igor and me, please check the linked Github issue.
The users will be able to move their stake more than once per period.
Indeed for staker, price do not impact need to move their stake directly
Yes, I’ve passed through and the idea of giving a number of penalty free movment per stake is good (value would be 4 according to my suggestion)
Dynamic thresholds help the system respond to market changes, but they can also create uncertainty for stakers and dApps.
Using a 7-day average for thresholds could offer more stability, especially during ASTR price drops.
This way, dApps are less likely to lose their Tier suddenly, and stakers can keep supporting their favorite dApps without facing penalties for quick shifts.
This is how the system works.
I’m not sure I get why ASTR price is important for being able to move stake though?
I believe that the comment made refers to the fact that sometimes we make choices for dapps, but right after the voting period, certain dapps disappear and do not produce what was agreed.
It doesn’t just look like it, it has been. This becomes clear daily, today we have strong engagement with a specific dapp and little is seen about the others, many are not concerned about this drain of capital via dapp staking, no questions, no real delivery of products.
As for the dApps that will be listed, there will still need to be an organization to manage them.
This was mentioned in a previous post by Marlten and is expected to be improved in the future.
I also think that the compensation aspect should be adjusted at the same time: if certain controls are put in place by the DAO Collective, I would be willing to reduce the number of slots and increase the rewards, especially for Tier 4.
I like this idea about reducing spots and increasing rewards. Since the new system has gone live, the top tier has pretty much just been Astar Core Contributors. and no one else is really even close.
then your tier 2 has 18 unused spots this time around. with Astar Degens being the closes tier 3 to try for tier 2, but needing more than an additional 20% (or over 10m) of what is already staked with them to get to the next tier… and there are about 20 or so unused tier 3 spots.
Then you get those in tier4 which is pretty much a grave yard for development since you get like 100 astar an era? So any new project that is coming in good or bad pretty much has no chance.
And before you say “good projects will get staked” Not necessarily. Most staking is done in the first few days, so they will need to wait 100 days before that happens again. Then, they will need to fight conformity and comfort: People automatically re-upping with what they did last time due to convenience vs putting in additional effort to learn about new projects. You also are fighting against large OG wallets that will keep their pet or favorite projects staked instead of looking at new teams/projects.
So 100% on board with finding a way to redistribute rewards and spots.
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Good point, the bonus astar reward may stop users from supporting new project during the building period, one idea is that users can still get bonus reward if they support different projects during the building period, but of course, I understand you that users may not have time to investigate new projects, which would always be an issue not just in Astar but in all other chains, do you have any better idea?