And what is this answer if not fake answer? No one from ambassador to Core team actually have answer on the point. Why? revenge again Sfy, they are forced you to working too much guys? Really strange!
-Sentiment anonymous poll on full broken rules 
Next action to move forward.
This sentiment poll will set the next action.
Most likely a delisting voting will happen no matter the outcome. So next actions would be to create the preimage and already start the public proposal because it will take some time to pass but can be endorsed by supporting the proposing numbers.
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@0xRamz I do think this sentiment poll is not needed; this should have been directly done onchain. This forum is indeed not the place to do polls because Foundation can’t justify or recognize this outcome as official. Reference: https://astar.network/blog/astar-onchain-governance-153
I’m not brushing it under the carpet but I can also answer to the things I’m accused at and this is related that I have ignored everything. So I’m here now publicly expressing my sentiment and trying to find solution with the community.
I also would like to move forward with bringing as much value as possible to the growth of the asset and the ecosystem but how some discussions are happening brings a very negative vibe. I will try to fix and proof things on my end but I hope everyone can.
But the sense of sentiments what is? If I offend you with bad words on this forum you ban me because of the forum rules?
dappstaking is protected by regulation. what does sentiment have to do with regulation? I don’t see this procedure for other teams. You have to express your thoughts on the regulation and on the one made by the team period. every time you don’t speak you are hiding shortcomings under the carpet. I don’t answer because I trust the community vote is something fake, and that gives exclusively value to the shortcomings of Skylab. this is the reason why the SFY team is absolutely against your management and not against Skylab or others. You have to share reality, true and right things, don’t pretend to be without exposing yourself.
the absurd thing is that behind the sfy affair and what they are doing now there is not even a great economic incentive neither on their side nor against them. only the human presumption of those who actually do not accept that they were wrong is coming out.
No I will not ban you. I will just censor the words you are using but I think we can also express ourselves without using bad words?
It’s clear that whatever I will say, will never please you. If you are against my management, I will not take this wrong.
As stated above, I already asked Ramz to stop this sentiment poll and it should have been done immediately onchain. Everyone can then use that data to make their own conclusions about community sentiment.
And team can follow the rules without scam community for 100k in more then 1 years or serious team can be helped by community if they not reach a tier system born after they proposal and after the promise of community of supporting them
Neither you nor any ambassador here, wrote anything or confirmed an idea towards skylab.
They were rewarded with being listed in yoki port, earning considerable sums from dappstaking that had already rewarded them beyond what was demonstrated.
After 15 months you have used different methods of control and currently of comparison between different teams. You do not have to explain why you think a certain way, you are free to think what you want. The problem is that neither you nor the others write anything, the only answers you give are condemnation of revenge, and hope for collaboration. Bearing in mind that these are two things that you certainly do not have to discover, but that in theory in a healthy system should be hoped for by default, can you explain to me why you do not condemn a team outside the rules that has stolen much more funds from the community than it was discovered to deserve? And why do you wait for the same community that allowed this, including corrupt ambassadors, to suddenly change their mind now?
You are fueling the flames, pretending to be irrelevant. Hypocritical is the first adjective that comes to mind to define this attitude, and for example your constant pointing out the sfy-zoro association or that sfy takes revenge.
But how can you be so biased and give an image of yourself completely different from reality? @Gaius_sama another member of the core team has implemented a different policy between sfy and skylab on the same point, and today he speaks exactly like you.
“I have no position on the matter”. Why don’t you tell things as they are? What should your hopes be based on, on the truth or on the attempt to denigrate SFY for this?
I repeat, you are fueling the flames, and SFY could have been here working on astar and having brought certain results for money that for you and the entire ecosystem were ININFLUENTIAL. You wanted to act like professors with the iron consultation of the rules at the time, today you don’t take sides! Shame on you
I do take side from Astar Foundation. The side will be towards having this resolved with an onchain voting, the decision that has been made through voting will get the full support of the Astar Foundation.
I would say, lets get this voting done as soon as possible so the community can express their sentiment.
Sota has been contacted by us privately several times. And he kindly replied. Post problem with AOC we reached out with the migration of the donkey gang dao. He himself confirmed to us that if a dapp could not be called such and therefore listed without tx onchain. We had to accept this umpteenth slap, and in response, it’s been 15 months that a team has nothing ONCHAIN and despite creating a game, pretends not to understand the questions we ask, moving the problem from the GAME to a migration of a decorrelated collection that occurred in December 2024 with about ten migrated nfts. But what are we talking about? get into the discussion! SFY or a few others accuse and you don’t discuss, you don’t investigate, so only accusations remain without a constructive discussion being able to be built. However, whenever you have the chance, point out the shortcomings of those who accuse. Soon you will transform us into the Christmas Grinch. If anything, Skylab will be delisted for its demerits, it will have been SFy who penalized the poor Indian team, a narrative will be built against reality and you will have your Villan to blame. There is only one problem here, you are corrupt and presumptuous. Look how much time you are wasting for this situation and how much more you will waste in the future just to not admit you were wrong.
Thats why we are now bringing it onchain to get this sorted out. Now the power can be in everyone’s control to create the public proposal.
Your accusations are noted.
Seems not enough time, so I will keep spending more time on this moving forward until resolved. I’m not saying I’m right, I’m guardian now the next steps. Next steps I’m pushing is bringing this onchain and execute the proposed direction.
But what community vote, Maarten? We have broken relationships with 1/3 of the listed dapps (because of your management) and many of them are currently all backed by ambassadors with interests. What could be the expression of a corrupt community of 30 people? The onchain votes currently made in other proposals are so low and ridiculous that you cannot talk about the ASTAR community vote.
You have not worked on a healthy ecosystem, you have not led the stakers to be more interested in the dapps in development and clearly imagine if they will ever be interested in voting for or against sfy or skylab. The vote is always that of the usual ones, do you mean the opposite?
You can talk about the vote of those on this forum due to incompetence who have already expressed their opinion on us several times.
I’m sorry but even in this case you should ask yourself how much you move all this.
More than a year has passed, in the meantime, a team has had to throw away part of its work, suffer a financial loss, deal with the discontent of its community, suffer damage to its image and then start again elsewhere and now this comes to mind?
Where did the “do more marketing” go?
So let’s improve this moving forward! And act faster, now with onchain governance. Its very easy to create this delisting or listing on dApp Staking.
I agree, its foundation’s job to keep highlighting the onchain governance and make is more visible. We are just getting started but hope more interactions will keep happening here on the forum as on Subsquare where community created proposals regarding dApp Staking but also regarding using treasury, community treasury, etc…
I can also predict the future for you, if that’s the only thing you can answer. Do you want to know it?
Soon you will find yourself because of this attitude, fighting with the new GIOTTO of astar. Just time for the capitalization of the project to rise, and it will rise. At that moment you will take cover exactly as you are not doing now AND THAT IS:
RULES-RULES TO RESPECT- IF BROKEN- DELIST OF DAPPS POST CHECK OF WHO IS IN CHARGE OF DOING IT.
No onchain voting is needed in this case, anyone can create the vote it’s true, but the main rules of behavior must be protected regardless. Having more tokens available does not mean being right regardless, as Ramz’s support for Skylab demonstrates. If you go to Ramz’s social media he often talks about interesting concepts in his posts. A few weeks ago he talked about the adoption of web3 in games, citing one that was on the crest of the wave at that time, and at that precise moment we wanted to ask him: “How can you talk about these things when exactly where you work you allow a fake dapp that does not work with the parameters required to be identified as a #web3 dapp to raise funds for so long?”
Then we avoided it, always so as not to make us unpleasant, but in general it seems to us that everyone in one way or another fills their mouths with concepts that they themselves do not put into practice in the first place.
The thing that is not clear to you is this and it is fundamental and take it as a suggestion:
Dapp staking must be clear and competitive.
When you have real dapps that bring real traction in the use of astar, you will be able to have valuable players who will indirectly bring dormant stakers to participate in the network.
But if you incentivize with YOUR behaviors:
All this will never happen, and dappstaking will only be a good idea transformed into a thorn in the side of the core team that obviously has to think about other things too. This is why we witnessed the creation of the Tier system, the point was not only the massive burn of tokens but also to take weight off the shoulders of the team by making dapp staking, which at the time saw dapps signed up every day, less incentivizing for small developers.
To understand all our mistakes, we studied many aspects of this ecosystem in depth. Our biggest mistake was not knowing enough before committing ourselves as we always do in our work. We did not evaluate the positions, the power games, the intrigues and the nuances that could damage us, just because we trusted the core team and Marteen regardless given our long collaboration.
Then we understood that behaving like skylab pays off, behaving like SFY does not.
We should have put pressure and brought important people to our side as they did with Ramz, look how an obvious decision degenerated.
No need, I’ll build my own future. No need for you to make, or predict it for me 
I’m ready to fight back. I’m not leaving Astar and will do everything to make this a thriving ecosystem with the transition we recently announced as becoming an Astar Collective. Ready to build and fight for our new future 
Oh sorry if I add later at the post before,
stakers must get burned. Don’t lose funds, but don’t earn as much as those who support serious dapps. And obviously dapps like ASTAR CORE don’t make sense to exist, because they would always be incentivizing.
A dapp works hard and climbs positions? Create an algorithm that rewards stakers with higher revenues than those who go down in the same period or even SCAM by getting delisted. Put a limit on the maximum support for each dapp, and on the maximum revenues that can be received by supporting Neurolanche (the first dapp on the list)
Make it possible to equate neurolanche activities to growth activities of the tier 4 dapp in a given month that commits certain work and progress.
This is an idea that would make the ranking not only a marketing or temporal barrier for those who arrive after neurolanche (I always cite as an example) but to be scrutinized and well evaluated by stakers. Add to this algorithm points that can be accumulated with onchain participation.
You are already 10 steps ahead of now.
Might be good to create a new topic of how dApp Staking v4 should look like in the future and work as collective to get this system in place. We can create together as collective the onchain proposal with the adjusted parameters with clear reasoning.
Happy to move that discussion to the new thread
Having read through this forum carefully, it’s time to address the ongoing discourse here. While there are some thoughtful and constructive contributors, the atmosphere has become increasingly toxic. Many discussions are dominated by baseless accusations and personal attacks, which only harm the ecosystem we all claim to support.
Let me take a moment to respond to the specific points raised
Specifically
Over the past 15 months, we raised approximately $55,000 USD through Astar dApp staking and Yoki port sales. That equates to $3,600 per month. After accounting for taxes (around ~ 40% under German law), this leaves $2,300 monthly.
Now, let me be absolutely clear: this is not “milking” the system. In fact, it’s barely sufficient to cover even basic development costs. We’ve supplemented this funding with our own freelance earnings, pouring personal resources into the project to ensure its continued progress.
Despite these limitations, we’ve managed our resources so efficiently that what we’ve achieved would likely have cost others three to four times as much. If this level of commitment and resourcefulness is difficult to comprehend, perhaps it’s because you’ve never managed a project of this scope. I’d suggest focusing less on making baseless claims and more on understanding the dedication required to deliver results under such constraints.
This statement is outright false. Our proposals have consistently outlined clear ideas for on-chain integration. From the beginning, we’ve emphasized a Web 2.5 approach that bridges traditional gaming and blockchain functionality. This includes a proof-of-achievement model designed to create tangible value for players.
We’ve explained this repeatedly, yet the same accusations keep surfacing. At this point, it’s clear that some individuals are more interested in attacking us than actually engaging with the details of our work.
Commissioning work is standard practice in VFX, gaming, and film. This isn’t controversial or unusual—it’s simply how the industry operates. As a self-proclaimed Web2 VFX company, SFYlabs, you should already know this.
Your attempts to frame this as some kind of misuse only highlight a lack of understanding. If you want to challenge our practices, I suggest you first familiarize yourself with the norms of the industry you claim to represent.
This is false. We’ve already presented 8 minutes of gameplay footage and a trailer—both of which qualify as an MVP. Additionally, all assets used in our development are properly licensed.
Using pre-existing assets with appropriate licensing is a common practice in gaming, VFX, and film. It’s not only efficient but also necessary to stay within budget constraints while maintaining quality. SFYlabs, as a VFX company, you should understand this better than most.
Thats something you should do thank you.
There’s no clear rule requiring a blockchain product to be ready immediately. Development, especially for a high-quality game or innovative project, takes time and funding. A high-caliber product doesn’t materialize overnight, and prioritizing quality over speed benefits the ecosystem in the long term.
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Stick to topic please.
Stick to topic please.
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Stick to topic please.
Another unfounded claim. We’ve consistently demonstrated our understanding and use of Astar’s technology. Perhaps instead of making accusations, you could provide specific examples to back your claims.
A word to @SFY_Labs
Your contributions to this forum seem to stem from a place of bitterness. The constant emotional outbursts and baseless accusations do little to support the ecosystem.
It’s clear that failing to achieve your desired results in the dApp staking tiers has left you frustrated and bitter. However, channeling that frustration into attacks on those who are trying to succeed is counterproductive.
We’ve spent the past 15 months focusing on building something of quality. If you took the time to understand our work rather than defaulting to jealousy and hatred, perhaps your critiques would carry more weight.
Instead of spending countless hours here trying to tear us down, consider investing that time in improving your skills. There are countless free resources—courses, tutorials—that could help you level up. Make that your New Year’s resolution.
If a delisting vote occurs, we are ready to accept the outcome. However, the behavior that has emerged in this process requires attention. The unchecked rise of toxic voices—those who engage in baseless accusations, personal attacks, and vulgar rhetoric—reflects a deeper issue within the community. These behaviors, if tolerated, harm not only individual projects but the very fabric of Astar’s ecosystem.
The Real Threat to Astar
Criticism, when constructive, can drive improvement. But what we face is far from constructive. Emotional outbursts and relentless negativity dominate the conversation, drowning out meaningful dialogue and alienating contributors.
Toxicity, not inactive, mismanaged, faulty projects, poses the greatest danger to Astar. While projects can be held accountable and improved, a toxic culture erodes trust, discourages collaboration, and tarnishes the ecosystem’s reputation. Left unaddressed, it will deter new contributors and harm the community far more than any single project failure ever could.
The rise of unproductive discussions, spam tagging, and personal attacks highlights a lack of effective moderation. Allowing such behavior to persist sends the message that it is acceptable, encouraging others to follow suit. This neglect has fostered an environment where negativity thrives, overshadowing the collaborative spirit needed for Astar to succeed.
To the leadership and moderators of Astar:
It’s time to enforce community guidelines and take decisive action against toxic behavior. A thriving ecosystem depends on respectful, constructive dialogue, not hostility.
To the community:
Let’s hold ourselves to a higher standard. Engage thoughtfully, avoid baseless accusations, and contribute to meaningful discussions. The future of Astar is shaped by the way we treat one another and collaborate.
With that, i wish everyone a happy new year!
instead of taking pieces of disjointed discussions in an attempt to qualify sfy badly, would you kindly respond to all 11 points I analyzed in the previous post? You never responded, and when you did you were evasive. Comment and prove us wrong. until then they talk or do. and you, my friend, have been out of line for 15 months. Then you are not the only one, don’t worry it’s changing for everyone.
also since you talk about jealousies, and you divert the discussion, you have 33 million in staking since the beginning of your activity, always the same amount. I would like to understand (and I ask everyone) if there is an onchain analysis tool to understand which accounts they come from. thanks. In the meantime all the problems are mentioned above and are not trivial, you should not participate.
Personally I don’t understand all the accusations made to Marteen but I think that certain points are understandable.
Not checking the status of the developments or seeing the hyper activity of the teams mainly during the Voting period should not be considered as the correct management. For this reason I am even more confident in the new Gov1 model implemented, I believe that the 6 members will do much better by coordinating and involving the rest of the community. Up to now I don’t know of any project that was born perfect and any improvement requires time, studies and implementation. I believe that it is up to the Astar community to undertake a new path to show its true values.
Returning on topic, my decision remains the same. After the SKYlabs report I will decide whether to vote for the delisting or not.