Vesting for Lockdrop participants for ETH

Edit: This post was edited to remove some words that sound aggressive. The final section was removed to not call out a particular individual’s action.

Dear Astar community members.

I hope my sincere message reaches everyone.

I have taken my time to read through all the replies. I saw everyone’s suggestions and what everyone’s thoughts are regarding the lockdrop vesting period for Astar’s launch. I avoid commenting on these matters, but I have received reports of personal attacks on our team and community members. Furthermore, some members have spread misinformation about our team and Astar Network, potentially leading to some confusion.

I observed that the debate on this thread was full of emotions as people get the impression that their assets are on the line. I understand where this sentiment is coming from, and I will not deny that our communication was insufficient. We could have done a better job informing our community regarding our decision. So we wish to improve our communication channel with the help of everyone. I wanted to make my points clear and short before posting them, but I cannot avoid writing essays at this point.

I write this post in hopes of resolving the issue regarding our position on vesting lockdrop participant rewards.

For those who accuse us of being a scam or potentially turning into one

I want to emphasize that we did not receive any tokens from the community through our lockdrop or the Crowdloan. The lockdrop was done via a smart contract on Ethereum main net. We do not have any authority over the locks, and we never deceived anyone into locking their ETH. Everything was and is transparent as it gets. A decentralized but ensured timelock of assets is something that only the blockchain can do. We used this method to prove that the people were willing to put their opportunity costs for the future of Web3.0. We asked for your time, not your ETH. We believe that time and opportunity make the future, not ETH.

Furthermore, We took extra care in constructing a transparent and safe lockdrop contract because ETH has value, not Astar Network tokens. This situation is still the same; only we are now locking in DOTs. No Parachain slot means no tokens at all, vesting or not. We did not hold an ICO because we wanted to prove that our team was always about the long-term vision. We ensure that ETH stays in Ethereum, and DOTs stay in Polkadot, safe and secure so everyone can unlock their tokens regardless of our success.

For those who say that we change the rules too often or that we are not community-driven anymore

As I mentioned above, we prioritize our long-term vision above anything else. Our vision for Astar is to be the path-finder of Web3.0 and a true DAO. The token economics, lockdrop, staking rewards, PLO, the network name…, these are all our methods and strategies to achieve everyone’s dream. If we find a mistake in our method, we learn and adapt. We are not changing the rules because these were never meant to be rules. We only promised two points; that we will never receive your crypto assets (ETH, DOT) and build a decentralized internet for the future. We are planning on delivering all of them. The path may change; we will make mistakes, but we will never stop moving forward.

The Astar Ecosystem is a community-driven network, but the Astar Core Team is a community-centric organization. In other words, our decision is based on the long-term sustainability of the community and our vision. Therefore, if a community proposal does not contain any long-term benefits for the community or does not push us towards our vision, we will prioritize other options that can. We do not expect everyone to share our vision because that would be arrogant. Instead, we aim to show our vision to everyone, working with those who do see it. Until we become a true DAO, we will maintain our community-centric view.

For those who disagree with vesting lockdrop rewards

Lockdrop participants did not spend their ETH in exchange for ASTA. Even if you consider the gas price for locking and unlocking your ETH, the ROI of SDN and the price increase of ETH during the lock is much higher than the gas price you would have spent during the first and second lockdrop. Therefore, any argument that implies that the vesting period for lockdrop participants is a loss in value is simply incorrect and invalid. Especially when you consider that there are external investors who have the same vesting applied, this situation is even more difficult.

With this in mind, we can easily see that there is absolutely no financial reason not to sell ASTA, as there is no ROI in holding on to ASTA after the distribution. Therefore, selling ASTA tokens before the price falls is the only rational option for token holders. We call this dumping. When token dumping happens at an early stage of the network, the only people who see damage are the ones who kept the token and supported our network.

Now I ask the question, how can unvested tokens be a long-term sustainable strategy for Astar Network? Can you confidently say that your short-term gain will bring long-term prosperity to the network and the community? Our team and the community have concluded that unvested tokens are out of the question. This applies to everyone including the investors, not just the lockdrop participants.

For those who say that reward on Shiden is irrelevant

For those of you who don’t know what Shiden is, it’s a Kusama parachain and a sister network of Astar network. Shiden is not a test net. Instead, it is a blockchain with tokens that have actual value, and it’s also listed on the exchange. People who participated in the first and second lockdrop have already received their SDN tokens.

Thanks to our community members, before the launch of Shiden Network, we were aware of the risks of not vesting lockdrop participant rewards. However, we still decided to take the risk because we knew that launching Astar Network for Polkadot would take longer than initially expected. We did not want to make our earliest and most dedicated supports wait too long. In hindsight, we were not aware of the magnitude of the damage. Nevertheless, we learned from our experience, and that is why we decided to vest the rewards. So we can ensure that Astar Network can be a more sustainable network for everyone.

But when I read some people responding with “we didn’t ask for SDN,” it made me very upset.

For those who say that we forgot about longest supporters–the lockdrop participants

Our team has never forgotten about the lockdrop participants. You are our precious ecosystem members who shared our vision from an early stage. That is why we were planning on holding an exclusive event for the lockdrop participants after the successful launch of Astar Network. This was supposed to be a surprise announcement (since it would be awkward if we failed to get a slot), but I guess we’ll have to plan this event again.

Anyway, we never forgot about the lockdrop participants, hence why we always honor the lockdrop rewards for both Shiden and Astar Network genesis. But I ask the community members to understand that the lockdrop contract isn’t going to win us an auction. We cannot show favors only to the lockdrop participants in this pivotal moment of the network. We try our best to treat our first, second, and third lockdrop participants the same without discrimination.

For those who are still not satisfied with the vesting

As I previously stated, vesting is necessary to create a sustainable network. However, we can adjust the vesting period to make it fair for people who have waited for a long time. Our team had a brainstorming session and decided to change the vesting period depending on a fair value. We will be making an official announcement regarding this change.

This decision was tough to make, especially in our position where we have different stakeholders. Our decision may come off as being hypocritical to many. But I hope my words have provided you with our perspective and understand why we made this decision. Our effort in creating a sustainable network is not a lie, and this was always our focus. We cannot satisfy everyone, but we really don’t want to make some people left out too.
Finally, please do not harass the core team or the ambassadors, as they are working very hard every day and night. If you wish, you can contact me on Twitter instead.

I do not intend on offending anyone, nor trying to divide the community, but it was difficult to write a statement like this while trying to satisfy everyone. To prevent further disputes, I will not reply further to this thread, and I wish to freeze this topic until the parachain auction is finished. I hope you understand.
Having said that, our team will still respond to this topic, and we won’t close the topic right away.

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Stop erasing reasonable and adequate comments in this post. Every member of the community has the right to his reasoned opinion.

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This article is written by all ambassadors and core team members. In addition to that, Hoon, our product manager, wrote this topic to solve common misunderstandings. Lastly, special thanks to our ambassadors. You helped a lot to summarize this article.

Summary

All our decisions maximize our ecosystem for long-term benefits. Our aim with the launch of Shiden Network was to learn as much as possible to assist with the launch of Astar Network. We collected data and feedback from the community that highlights some changes we need to make for a healthier launch strategy for Shiden’s sibling. We will implement on-chain governance and eliminate the sudo key as soon as possible. After meetings with ambassadors and the core team, we decided on the following vesting scheme for lockdrop participants. Our first supporters in 2020, who locked ETH for 1000 days, have 7 months linear vesting with 10% released at launch. Those who locked ETH for 30 days, 100 days, and 300 days have 15 months linear vesting with 10% released at launch. We decided on 2 categories because people who chose 30, 100, 300 days have already unlocked ETH. We recognize the impact this might have on those affected, however, we believe this is the right strategy to ensure the long-term benefits to the ecosystem and its supporters. Please take your time to read the whole article.

Astar Goal

The Story

Our primary focus is to win the Polkadot auction because this is the most important milestone from day1. Astar aims to be in the top 3 of the first batch parachains being deployed on Polkadot. We have been developing Astar/Plasm for more than 2 years to become a Polkadot parachain. In our original plan, we focused on the crowdloan and decided on Astar’s launching strategy, including lockdrop vesting after winning the auction. Astar needs to be a parachain to have a token with utility/value.

What are lockdrops?

Before starting, let us explain why we did lockdrops and the things we needed to deal with. The lockdrop purpose was to distribute tokens to early believers and make this project as much decentralized as possible. It was beyond our expectation that >7,000 participants committed a total of >150K ETH into lockdrop 1 & 2. Since we wanted to do a community-driven project, we have distributed tokens to lockdrop participants first. Everything was and is transparent as it gets. A decentralized but ensured timelock of assets is something that only the blockchain can do. We used this method to prove that the people were willing to put their opportunity costs for the future of Web3.0. We asked for your time, not your ETH. We believe that time and opportunity make the future. All ETH are locked in a smart contract and never was and will ever be in control of the team. Since ETH is locked on the smart contract, we have no control over the smart contract. It is technically impossible to withdraw before the lockdrop period ends.

In general, the lockdrops were successful and gave us the decentralized support required for a healthy DAO and ecosystem. Creating the best infrastructure for developers to build in the Polkadot ecosystem. We believe in the vision about building with the community’s trust instead of their money with a public sale. A lockdrop works the same as a crowdloan. After some time, you get your initial investment back. At the time of the lockdrop, there was no plan to launch on the Kusama network, and no one knew when Polkadot would launch. Many parameters were missing, and a few thought Polkadot would reach its current size. We received VC investments from Binance, Fenbushi, and other great names in the Web3 space during the first seed round of investors. Polkadot launched in May 2020, and this launch was the start of building towards the next milestones. Since then, our community has grown thanks to our core developers, ambassadors, ecosystem members, and investors exponentially. All of us are in this together, and let’s build together in the years to come.

What we learned from Shiden Network Launch

In June 2021, we launched Shiden Network, an experimental mainnet of Astar Network. The Shiden launch allowed us to understand how our token economics works in the market and test as many features as possible before implementing them on Astar Network. The biggest insight we got through Shiden is that our initial community liquidity (25%) was so huge compared to other Kusama parachains like Moonbeam (around 10%) and Karura (around 5%). The on-chain data shows this was one of the driving reasons behind the selling pressure, and we feel this deters new supporters from trying the dApp staking store. It was a challenging moment for us because we believed distributing SDN tokens without vesting is good for community members, but it turned out there is still a lot of confusion about the purpose and value of Kusama-based projects.

Solution regarding vesting for lockdrop participants

We need liquidity as much as we need our holders to experience the journey and the growth that will come. We figure out that vesting the ASTR tokens will be a better option for people who care about our long-term ecosystem benefits. After 360 degrees feedback from our community, supporters, and analysis of on-chain and market data, Our core team and ambassadors decided to have the vesting for lockdrop participants for both the long-term and short-term benefit of the project. The short-term benefit will help attract crowdloan support which in turn could secure a top 3 position which translates to easier CEX listing and recruitment of application developers to our ecosystem. The long-term benefit will provide time for the ecosystem to flourish without constantly early selling pressure. The vesting is based on the lock period chosen during the lockdrop.

The reason for the short vesting period for 1000 days lockdrop participants is that they took the biggest opportunity cost. Their ETH is still locked in the smart contract, and they can’t do anything with that. Also, the 7 months from the date of release marks around 2 years from when the ETH was locked. The vesting is in line with the vesting period as participants in the Astar Crowdloan Event. As for 300, 100, and 30 days participants, their ETH has been unlocked and claimed back.

We have to emphasize that all the locked/vested ASTR can be used for dApp Staking, CrowdStaking and used to onboard your permissionless collator. Each one of you will be able to earn block rewards. The utility of the tokens is very important.

Final words

Don’t need to add more words to this. Let’s build the future of Web3 together.

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I am grateful to the Astar Network team for the fact that as a result we have a completely fair decision, in favor of the project and not to the detriment of the early community. 7 months of linear vesting for those who have locked their Ethereum for 1000 days seems to me a fair decision.Thx!

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It seems like reasonable and fair decision after all. I hope that future discussions about important changes in the ecosystem would be made in the advance manner, taking into account the interests of all groups of investors. This will serve well-being of the project and also show project managers as people with a conscious leadership position. As for now voiced decision seems tolerable and as long as it will be externalized I agree to let 水に流す

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It is very good that this decisions come in a very beginning of polkadot auctions. Now future crowdloan participants can recalculate their metrics for the crowdloan rewards.
Is this is final decisions about vesting? If this is not final, I just thinking that vesting schedule can be adjusted for people who lock their ETH for 1000 days and also will participate in crowdloan from the same addresses. For example keep the same vesting 7 months for those who lock ETH for 1000 days and decrease vesting till 4-5 month who lock ETH for 1000 days and also contributed into crowdloan with e.g. 500 dots.

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Excellent.:+1: This suits everyone.
Let’s hope that in the future there will be no similar disagreements between us, because it’s easier to notify about the planned upcoming big changes in the project in advance than to put the reputation and trust of the community at risk. Thanks.

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Hello, administrator. Now I have another question. I transferred the astar sent by the pledged token into another wallet. How will it be released?

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Fair decision. Thanks, Astar team. You prove you can hear your community.

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Guys,what if I transferred my plm tokens to another wallet?
I mean,how will they be released?

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so can you post it on your twitter? We have a common goal to make ASTR rise as high as possible

Thanks to the team. A deliberate and fair decision. Also, if you can, if possible, make a breakdown schedule, as other projects do, so that it would be clear and understandable. It seems to me that this will help people decide and increase the credibility of the project so that they can contribute to crowdloan. They also asked how it would be with those who transferred their tokens to another address. I also locked for 30,100, 300 and most of them for 1000 days, but I transferred all the tokens to a different address.

Thank you guys for your understanding especially @slezisatoshi and the Russian community. We recognize that our communication was poor and we have a lot of things we need to improve. We will do our best to make the best platform for everyone.

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