i agree with you, but maybe we should take a step back first before doing something that hurt everyone
i like the concept of your game
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Ok guys, youāre right, this is the 3rd message written after I said to move on. Okay, the system is perfect and you who currently have 200k more astar deserve more support (12.5x)than us. thatās fine.
I hope that in a few months you wonāt find yourself in the situation of having to do more promotion, because for a few astars you wonāt find yourself in a certain tierā¦ and I hope that no one will answer you: increase your engagement, or work moreā¦ It was mortifying for us after what weāve done so far.
Here the system must be changed and we must all agree on this, without ifs or butsā¦
For now SFY has received almost non-existent support for its dapp, regardless of good numbers, and as several have written above, an interesting game idea. This is the result we bring you today. Just as we bring you our developments, we bring you the numbers of support provided for them. today we are close to 0.
Letās move on.
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I feel you broā¦ but yeah! Soon we are going to have a hundred of dApps racing for the tiers pie. Thatās the gameā¦ community support will say which dApp will win.
When I recommend understand what community want / how to bring value to the community is because sooner or later community will decide between a hundred of dApps in dAp staking.
Great tech with small community is uselessā¦ do not underestimated the growing community importance.
Letās build it!
no, you didnāt write correctly:
TODAY we have reset everything to a support prize race.
If you go to the beginning of this post, SFY has written a proposal in detail, and you have participated in a system according to certain parameters.
Before participating and engaging in this community, we contacted the astar team to understand what type of support the stakng dapp could give us. @0xRamz can confirm this.
We are committed to this, increasing our numbers based on rewards, which could also go down or up in the future, but always with the right principles and linearity. This applies both to us and to other teams. We are the only ones here writing about this issue. Others who have the same problem come to ask for GRANT. we didnāt do it.
You canāt say that the community decidesā¦ if a dapp has 14.99 like us today and a 15.1 you canāt say that the community decides. IT IS A JOKE and intelligent people like us and you should not suffer this pun. We feel deeply offended by the lack of support, even though our work continues.
We made a pact with the community on day one, and we will honor it. Today, not the community (because we have so much astar and staking), but the random and non-meritocratic decisions that have only the objective of leading to the burning of more astar have thrown us out.
It will happen to others, it will happen in the future even within tiers. A dapp with 15 million earns exactly the same as one with 50ā¦ which is absurd. Where is the difference in community support in this case? why structure a system called DAPP STAKIng, instead wouldnāt it have been better for the projects to present their proposals and updates on their frequent developments and then be financed by vote based on what was really needed?
this is not a staking dapp. The most beautiful and clean narrative and which has made the ecosystem grow a lot. The truth is that the bull market arrives and the gain and traction of the project on the market is more important than the agreements made between communities and developers like us.
At least be honest in stating this.
In the meantime, I also underline the fact that after our civil protest towards this new count, our dapp, almost as a joke, has settled at around 14.99 million for days. I donāt want to say anything or make allusions. make your own considerations. Greetings
PS: stop to wriite no sense please. Is not our case. and you know.
Lucky 15.1 m 803 astar (Just the dapp after us, so no one feels offended. It is only for statistical purposes.)
AgeofChronos 14.99m 66 astar
How do you can talk about difference of support of the community?
Try to compensate for the protocolās shortcomings with shortcomings that sfy has never had in terms of community support.
We know well that the mood, especially in this period, should be different, but at least donāt make fun of us. You supported us from the first days with your vote for our proposal. How can you say that youāre okay with the fact that our dapp is practically no longer funded and that āthe community decidedā with these objective numbers?
And moreā¦
Another thing that destroys all your talk about community support.
Sky Labs (We are quoting only for statistical purposes, no one should feel offended, these are real facts)have unstoppable grant, and just 2 million more then us and other dapps that have not requested.
So they have better communities? is this correct?
they have build a community and more support respect sfy?
Do you know that this also offends our stakers and not just us?
So what should we do right now, request a grant that goes above 2-3 million, and exclude other dapps in the race that havenāt thought about getting financed with the grant proposal before?
Does all this make sense to you? After this, is it right that the dapp who will find himself after us can complain or not?
This model is not linear, and nonlinear and random things are not fair.
We are highlighting a serious problem to you, we know how to get around the obstacle, we will reach the next tier, we might as well stop writing and pretend nothing happened.
We would be nicer, but less honest.
Make your own considerations
and let me also share one more thing with youā¦
We can get to 15 million alone right now. We donāt do it, because we have ethics. And respect.
What we are writing is just a help so that the system grows better. Weāve always wanted this. Appreciate it.
In general, support is reached by talks and proposals, complains and fud tend to work worse.
Please letās be respectful.
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Maybe this facts that donāt suit you, and you call it complaining.
We expressed ourselves in a polite manner and cited multiple factors.
We are exactly arguing and discussing, as others would do.
The proposals were made here, and it is written exactly what is missing for the developers, which both the team and the Astar community have attracted into the ecosystem with promises that today we can affirm are not respected due to a changing narrative in progress:
And we are in favor of this.
It is certainly a better proposal than what the team currently has made and many in the community have taken it lightly, looking only at the speculative aspect.
Is your contribution at this moment aimed at putting us in a bad light?
I donāt understand the point. You are in the same private group as us, why didnāt you help and write just one single message days ago before we reported our idea towards an unfair system on the forum?
You should stake your own token on your own dApp.
This is expected, since itās not preventable in a decentralized system.
And itās expected that devs might (will) use the rewards to boost their own tier.
Again, itās not something that can be prevented in a decentralized system.
This has nothing to do with ethics and respect. Itās about decentralized system.
And thereās no way to really prove your claims in this regard - you might be staking lots of team ASTR on your own project. Iām not saying you are, but am trying to make a point.
I have read a lot of your posts here and in the dApp staking v3 thread. As a dev that worked a lot on dApp staking v3, I didnāt perceive your comments to be constructive at all. Of course it might be due to my perception, but Iām just sharing as I see it. You have mostly complained and pointed fingers, labeling things.
Others really went out of their way to propose actual potential solutions.
The only part I see thatās good about this proposal for your project is that youād get higher rewards without having to attract more stakers.
However, the part that I donāt understand in all of the made comparisons is how is suddenly this a big problem?
ASTR was valued at around 0.05$ about 4 months ago.
Now itās around 0.16$, and it was around 0.18-0.19$ for around 2 months maybe.
So the rewards that developers were receiving has at least tripled, and almost quadrupled in that time period. With the introduction of dApp staking v3, according to the analysis you provided, your rewards have decreased roughly 10x, and you donāt want to stake your own tokens.
Based on this, your rewards, compared to few months ago, have been decreased roughly by 60%. But if you get into tier 3, they will be roughly 4x higher than before.
Iād suggest you stake your own tokens on your own dApp, as suggested above.
Bring yourself into tier 3. Attract more stakers.
Get yourself into tier 2. Get even higher rewards.
And so on.
With a good product as yours, and with the higher staker APR, it should be easier for you to do so than before.
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We are disconcerted by this type of response.
Incredible how it is possible to go around the problem without solving anything, instead blaming the team that finds the problem.
For us the discussion on this problem ends here.
We are already in tier 3, we have not added our tokens or asked for grants. When other serious developers arrive, if they find themselves in similar situations, they will contest the bad work done on the staking rewards dapp (everyone can make mistakes, errors are corrected together and by talking about it).
āThe only part I see thatās good about this proposal for your project is that youād get higher rewards without having to attract more stakers.ā
This statement is almost false. The analysis is thorough and linear.
If you want to know, we worked on astar even when the price was significantly lower, and without any support in 2021. Indeed, against any interest in our project, astar was a promise and we have always believed in the team.
Speculation has never been our goal, and we didnāt stake our astars certainly not because we didnāt want to. We just wanted to demonstrate that it cannot be a random bracket of very few stars of difference that defines the diversity of support for two projects that have worked practically in the same way and have practically the same numbers.
Our intervention also applies to higher tier dapps, a dapp like us with 15 million cannot earn the same rewards as someone who collects 50. So as you can see, my speech is certainly not aimed at personal interest.
Why is it so difficult to understand that the current system cannot work meritocratically for everyone? why are we scaring this community so much that we are called complainers, for an analysis so simple to understand?
What are your interests? I think no one right? The staking dapp v2 has been improved several times. I donāt understand why this is scary now.
Our interests are to be able to develop peacefully without a single $astar being able to make the difference in supporting the project.
Our team is made up of 9 people and it is certainly not the dapp stakng that finances us entirely. It was a help, today it is much less so. In some cases it is not at all.
That said, we no longer have time to discuss this issue and play the bad guys.
We are sorry for this hostile attitude, we have already spoken to several members of the team and they will be the ones to clarify any measures. If they will be there and when they will be there.
We ask you to move forward and not think about this situation anymore.
Letās close this discussion please.
We continue with our developments, even without support. But when we do our monthly reports on our development we will also tell you how much support we have received for that type of work.
Thank you
A small update regarding the rewards from #dappstaking on Age Of Chronos.
Thanks to the tool created in collaboration with subsquid, having moved to tier 3 at least for this era, our dapp will be able to guarantee approximately 4% more per day. Rewards will be sent every era. There will be no need to take any action, just relax and wait for your piece of cake. We have decided to allocate 30% of what the dapp earns each ERA to increase the number of stakers and retain our community.
Furthermore, every period there will be rewards in NFTs to be used in game or pure art created by our 3D artists.
Yesterday we also raffled among all our stakers of the VOTE subperiod, a lucky winner of an #ordinals artifact created on the bitcoin network more than 1 year ago, with a very high mint value, and which will probably acquire greater value over time, having a really low ID number (find more info on our twitter page)
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Thanks for update SFY Labs. I am supporting you.
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You did bring up something we (Astar supporters) did not noticed, for tier 4 the amount of 67 Astr seems extremely low. As a community, we should definitely look into this tier to ensure new projects in Dapp staking have a chance to fund some of their expenses.
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Thatās definetly true. Unfortunatly 67 astr so low. If you will stake 150k ASTR as staker also you will receive near to 67 astr. Tier 4 project canāt grow with this reward.
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A small summary post. These are the reasons why we chose rmrk and work closely with them. A small announcement we can make is that we are working to integrate the first 3D nfts equippable together with the rmrk team. Our experience in 3D will be fundamental for this. We will also create guides for anyone who wants to approach equipable 3D as an artist or nfts creator. Initially some parameters will be fixed, and certainly set on the collections that we at sfy are creating, such as ageofchronos. Afterwards, everyone can have fun creating personalized environments. Enjoy
ps: We are pushing hard to better integrate this pallet on Astar too. Even just having a marketplace that manages all assets well is a complex thing. Singular to date, is the one that gives the greatest guarantees. Astar EVM is currently present on singular also thanks to the commitment of SFY Labs, we have pushed hard in recent months to activate the chain, thus creating the first 2.0 nestable collection on astar EVM: Saurus crew (they can also be used in Age Of Chronos).
We will do the same for ZKEVM, we hope to be able to integrate the donkey gang which are one of the most successful collections on dotsama, currently they are still found on the kusama network.
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You are doing a very good job, I wish you a lot of success!
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thank you @Juminstock , really appreciated 
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Hi everyone.
Unfortunately yesterday a series of strange events brought us back to tier 4.
We are quite disheartened by this management, but we especially wanted to update our stakers and all those interested in the project. We will try to manage on our own, without any support.
https://x.com/SFY_Labs/status/1767840870055760247?s=20
In the meantime, these last few weeks we have continued to work on:
-Game dynamics - Fights
-3D creation of the main characters.
-Experimentation on composable and equippable 3D nfts.
Some tests below with some Squid models created for the Subsquid team. 
A lot to do for add the animation.
For the game we plan to use classic idle poses that can make NFT more appreciable from a communicative point of view
Ciao!
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I really like your work and what you are doing with your project, I will support you by republishing your content on social networks.
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