Unclaimed tokens

Of course it is formally correct. But no one should be satisfied with this result. Would be nice if a solution is found.

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@sota can we freeze this unclaimed PLM tokens until ETH of each user were frozen? In my opinion, it will be the middle ground between two options (to claim or not to claim).

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Do you mean freeze the unclaimed plm until the ETH lock period is over? Could be a solution.

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Will it be a minimum number of votes to take a decision about issue unclaimed tokens, e.g. if there be 10 votes to issue extra tokens will it take effect? I think forum is not the best place for such polls, can we do it in discord for example where we have more people.

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@rdovgan This is how me and other people I spoke to, we thought it worked in the first place, in my case I was willing to wait 1000 days to get my tokens to support the project and I am still, so I think it’s a good solution.

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I can’t wait to vote in the next few days. I empathize with the parties that for whatever reason missed the deadline. I want to be a supportive person in this community and I think many has learned their lesson. Some, I believe did not have the technical knowledge and some might have just overlooked their responsibilities. I am very sad for you if you are unable to claim so far. I will just be transparent and tell you. I will vote a big “Yes” to give those that made a mistake another chance. I don’t mind if you know my vote. No one is perfect but I am sure those that will be able to collect their PLM when they thought they will be lost because of a mistake. Well, they are going to be loyal members of our community. Wishing everyone the ultimate happiness and more blessings to come. What a team and what a community we are building here together. Thank you for reading my 2 cents…

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Totally agree with you, loyalty and supportiveness are key for a strong community.

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Yes I think this would be the best solution

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Some of the guys are completely misunderstanding. The unclaimed token is not issued. So, we can’t freeze the unclaimed token since the token does NOT exist now.

This means that if we issue the unclaimed token, the total supply will be 110%. This means your token will be diluted.

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This doesn’t make sense because of the reason I show above.

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oh,no!i think final result depend on the vote pool determined.Minority is subordinate to majority,awesome!plasm team.

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@sota that amount of tokens are those that were going to be generated in relation to the value on ETH that those who have participated in the second lockdrop have blocked. Therefore, actually, there is not 100%, there is 90% of the tokens and if the new ones are distributed, it will be 100%.

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Yes, that is correct. But you are saying the same thing to me.

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Then it was already contemplated that the number of tokens would be what you call 110% and I call 100%, so they will not be diluted, because the value that was blocked in ETH corresponds to what I call 100% , so they will match. If not, what is the purpose of keeping the ETH locked if it “has not been used” to create new tokens? Right now there is an excess value in ETH blocked for the amount of tokens that have been mined.

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another question is - if community decides that tokens will be minted, at what ether price for the formula? because claiming process took into account ETH price at that moment (ETH is allmost 2x price now, so it would not be fair to mint higher PLM token count for same locked ETH)

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I think it wouldn’t be a problem, if it isn’t possible to know what the price was at the moment of lock the ETH it could be calculated with some price between the begin and the end of 2nd lockdrop. It could be an average or it could be the lowest, so the “dilution” of the tokens it won’t be that much, as some are concern.

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I think that roll back the second lockdrop would be a problem. There is only 6,9% people that didn’t claimed and I think it would be a mistake to roll it back since the vast majority of the community has been able to claim them without problem.

There were many warnings, the time was extended and still, those PLMs were not claimed.

I think it’s smarter to burn those PLM tokens than to make a roll back.

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Rollback is not the solution which is discussed anymore. That one is by definition no option and out of the question. Probably other harmless solutions will be investigated.

Some options have been proposed already, one of them could be that people in possession of claimID get the opportunity to finish the claiming process, for example, during lockdrop 3.

Possibly a mechanism could be used that they only receive 80 or 90% of their initial PLMs. By contributing in lockdrop3 the bonus for participating in lockdrop 1 and/or 2 can compensate on that. Its also an incentive to participate in lockdrop3.

That was just a thought, again there could be thought off a lot of solutions that could be constructive for the community, which should be investigated.

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I think we can use the lowest price during the lockdrop.

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You’ve got a point there. But what would you suggest if Ether dropped in the meantime.

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