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Regarding dApp Staking, there is no problem with Staker’s assets themselves, as they are not in the custody of VLS. The management rights are with Staker.

If the project is de-listed, it will no longer appear in the Portal’s MY DAPPS list. In this case, the reward and bonus will still be generated.
You can collect the ASTRs that were staked in the corresponding dApps as soon as you claim the reward, but please note that the bonus will be forfeited. If the dApps you voted for during the voting period are delisted, you will need to leave them until the next voting period to keep the bonus. Please note that additional Stkaing to other dApps will also result in a Claim at the same time.

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Thanks for the information. I am very sad for the events that happened to VLS because I really considered it a well done project with great potential. I think the best thing the VLS team can do now is to be 110% transparent with the entire community and ASTR stakers.

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Hi Hayatti and Takakoji,

To be honest, I’m very sad as I often using your product especially during early days of Astar zkEVM. And a lot of our local community is disappointed since they are more attached using your dApps instead the other one.

But nevertheless, I praised for your team’s transparancy regarding user’s fund (who put LP) with hope someday in the future you bring again another good product ( but less drama :slight_smile: )

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The project needs to be removed from the dApp staking.

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I have no objection to that, but I think it should be taken into consideration so that there will be no negative impact on the general public who voted for this project.
It would be better to wait until the next voting period.

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Can the paid ambassadors please come up with a system to screen all existing dApps?

Or are we just going to sit on our hands and wait for the next rugpull, further eroding common user / community trust.

This issue was flagged months ago (that dApps should be screened).

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Maarten posted earlier about monitoring the dApp Staking project.
It was mentioned that we need an entity to monitor the project (right now the management function is not working since it is community driven), and I believe the DAO Collective will be formed around the same time as the implementation of Gavanance v1.

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:sweat_smile: :sweat_smile: :sweat_smile: Incredible to read about this, we also feel personally frustrated as developers, projects like AOC have been excluded from proper support just because there are many dapps that have played with the community by lying and taking funds for more than a year. Instead of supporting us, a serious team that has proven over time to always be professional and serious, they wanted to support dapps with ambassadors with double roles, dapps that had not demonstrated and have not yet demonstrated anything. The funds were lost, even if this does not hurt anyone because they are community funds, wouldn’t it have been better to “waste them” on at least functional dapps, which could have brought something to astar?

maybe it would have been better to support those who spoke to you tangibly about the use of astar technology rather than doing marketing with strange rap songs and then disappearing into thin air for example…

1700 entries to participate in soneium, if the controls will be like this, and the management will always be the same, it will be a scam festival.

Sorry to be so harsh, but we told you. Many have hidden behind random and poorly constructed rules to squeeze the milk cow.

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Something so simple is not feasible for just one problem. Double roles, double interests. There are few places and if other dapps are excluded and not meritocratically rewarded it is exactly for this type of shortcomings. Don’t be discouraged, your proposal will not be followed, until a serious governance is created also on dapp staking there will be no solution!

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This is correct.
We will have more news related to this coming out next week.

You can already learn more from here:

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How is it possible that this scam continues to earn astar from dapp staking? It’s been known for over a week now that there will be no development, I wonder why it hasn’t been delisted yet. Use the funds correctly for those who deserve it!

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Ya it really is a joke that a paid ambassador decided to flag your project for delisting and it was very quickly removed, while this verified scam / rug pull project is still earning rewards…is this amateur hour at Astar?

Why are the ambassadors being paid to remove legit projects and not screen the scam ones?

What are they even doing to earn the money? (besides being paid to promote dApps while pretending to be impartial)

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The situation is indeed complex.

1. About AOC

In AOC’s case, it was clear that they were transitioning to Moonbeam. Since they were ceasing activities on Astar, continuing with dApp Staking was not a viable direction (and this was something they themselves seemed to understand).

This topic is not central to the current discussion, so I won’t delve further into it here.

2. About VLS

For VLS, at least as of now, it is not a fraudulent project. However, one of the co-founders is currently unreachable, leaving the project effectively in a suspended state. While it’s unclear how likely this is, there remains a possibility of the project being revived. One of the Agents is reportedly making direct efforts to reach the co-founder.

VLS currently has 445 stakers, a relatively significant number, and 29M ASTR staked. Since Period 3 has just begun, there is a need to handle the situation cautiously due to the bonus-related implications.

Without the bonus issue, a delisting would likely have occurred immediately. If the project revives, it can always reapply for listing at that time.

3. About Agents

Currently, the scope of Agents’ work does not include auditing dApps. Details can be found on GitHub.

The state of projects listed under dApp Staking is indeed far from ideal. Community-led oversight is challenging. While discussions can occur on the Forum when someone raises a proposal, such activity is currently very limited. There are 88 projects listed under dApp Staking, and it’s difficult to investigate these proactively.

As a result, a proposal has been made to establish a committee to oversee the auditing of dApp Staking projects.

In my opinion, having a system to mechanically delist non-compliant projects would be beneficial, but implementing such a system would require design and development, which cannot be done immediately. Organizing a committee seems to be a faster solution. If you’re interested, you can volunteer when the committee starts recruiting members.

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However, we could have waited for better results in terms of network support in order to continue. Almost 1 year since dappstakingv3 and there are no real evolutions or contributions to the network from the developers.

Furthermore let me say that this is not technically true. First of all because we had 230 stakers who were not protected at all, while from what we see those who bet on scams are more protected. In fact, one of our goals as a development team, since we are first and foremost a team expert in 3D graphics, would be to get to have cross-chain and cross-collection nfts in the near future. It escapes that currently Aoc is the first 3D collection matchable in the world that evolves together with the game and based on the experience made while playing. Furthermore AOC is a technically multichain game, using the rmrk protocol and evm networks. What has changed during development, with all the expenses already faced by the team, has been the support of astar which for reasons that we know well and that we will not repeat has gone from 100% to 5%. Our team has never ruled out developing on astar in the future, certainly to do so and to bring benefits to the ecosystem we rightly had to be supported. This was not the case and remember that SFY has been a partner with astar since 2021, when no one knew about this project. All this while it was allowed to clear scams or teams that have not released a simple update for years to proliferate. The system is corrupt and people like stakers are not really influential in support. Dapp staking is a game that starts from dominant positions (ambassador- dual role / influential stakers friends of projects) that outline the trend of votes, in fact to date beyond the proposal of each individual team, it has been ascertained that people tend to bet on dapps that already have a high amount of votes from the start. Almost all stakers do not look at the projects and do not read the proposals.

We started development on moonbeam because the team supported us and saw value and professionalism in our work, in fact after 3 months they received a complete mvp. I can’t see many dapps on astar that have brought a single result even more than a year of support.

Not only were we damaged and excluded, but after months we noticed that no one ever asked the question as a community to investigate the problem, let alone proposed solutions, and all this while I repeat there are scammers who take advantage of an easily corruptible system.

An active community and ambassadors should have followed the AOC situation, they should have seen the work done, the team’s ability to bring certain value after 1 year there is not or almost not a single active game on astar that involves the use of technology. And think how important it would have been in a soneium perspective.

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Another problem, even if it’s a scam, people won’t withdraw funds from VLS, because otherwise they will lose bonuses. Now I don’t think it takes a nuclear scientist to understand that the current bonus system that in theory should incentivize voting is total bullshit.
There will be 29 million astars that for 99 days will be on a scam dapp because the economic incentive doesn’t match the right support for the dapp.

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I will not continue with the AOC here because, as I mentioned earlier, it is not the main topic.

There is a fact that dApp Staking participants cannot scrutinize projects. It is difficult to ask that of everyone. Therefore, I think the shortcut is to audit the dApps that are listed in the first place and eliminate those projects that do not bring value to Astar. This is expected to improve in the future, as per my recent post.

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Yes, I believe that is correct.

That is why a concept is currently being developed to make the bonus structure more flexible.

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improving a bad idea with a patch is not always a solution. Sometimes it would be enough to start over and admit that a certain idea was wrong. Study new solutions, do not pretend that an idea is necessarily adaptable to the context. A trivial example of this: Gavin leaving Eth to create Polkadot.

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In my opinion, taking the approach of creating something new and starting over is difficult considering the current market environment, the growth of the AstarNetwork ecosystem, and the future collaboration with Soneium. Therefore, I believe it is better to address and resolve existing issues through trial and error.

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Indeed , this is why the team is working on a feature which can let users move their tokens to another dApp during the B&E period without losing the bonus :slight_smile:

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