One more question to the Skylab team that I forgot to ask.
You promoted your dapp staking campaign on the distribution of nfts for all stakers, since I didn’t follow… Did you do it? I heard that many people are still waiting. Then there are also physical objects. Where did you mint the nfts to distribute? Can I see them? On EVM or native? and in this case how did you associate the address of the native stakers to evm and vice versa?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this matter. I completely understand your concerns and agree that dApp Staking should align with projects that bring value to the Astar ecosystem.
That said, I believe it’s important to recognize the core purpose of dApp Staking: to bootstrap projects and give them the support needed to grow and build meaningful contributions to the ecosystem. While it’s true that Skylab doesn’t currently show significant direct on-chain activity, there’s a lot of foundational work happening behind the scenes.
Moreover, the community’s support is a clear testament to the value and potential of Skylab, as seen by the 30M+ tokens staked on our dApp. This support gives us the resources to continue building our product and, in the long run, create significant impact and value for the Astar ecosystem.
Delisting projects based solely on their current on-chain visibility might not capture the full picture of their progress or potential. We are committed to evolving and contributing to the ecosystem, and we hope for your understanding and support as we work towards that goal.
But you have 0 onchain activities, and you have never even remotely discussed ideas on how to implement it. What are you developing a web2 game? No, then why don’t you respect the points of your proposal? And why hasn’t the people who have to control you asked you anything for months?
You had 30 million, the same amount for the majority of your presence here. This means that they probably come from a small number of people if not one, we can use some tool to find out, if I’m not mistaken there should be.
In any case I hope you also update us on the nfts distribution
Hey @Zorounashi,
Let me address your concerns directly. Your tone and accusations are unwarranted and misrepresent the reality of our work and commitment.
First, we have always been transparent and have consistently shared updates with the community. If you were genuinely following our progress, you would have seen our updates, including details on the distribution of physical items (currently being prepared for shipping and packaging) and NFT rewards (which will be minted once the migration concludes). A form for participants to claim their physical rewards will be sent out very soon. Instead of seeking out the facts, it seems like you’re more interested in finding reasons to discredit us.
The claim that $50k over 15-24 months is somehow excessive shows a lack of understanding of what it takes to build a serious, quality product. None of that funding has gone to personal compensation. Every dollar has been reinvested into the project—hiring high-level artists and developers to ensure the best outcome. $50k wouldn’t get you far in Web2 development, and we’ve made far more progress than most with the limited resources available to us.
As for your comments about “NFT hooks” or cheap tricks, that’s exactly what we’re avoiding. We’re building a product with long-term value, not some hype-driven gimmick that dies out in two months. Real progress takes time and focus, and we’re not here to churn out subpar work just to appear busy.
On the topic of dApp Staking, your claim that Astar is “spending money” on us is fundamentally incorrect. dApp Staking is a community-driven system funded by stakers—not by Astar’s treasury. If the community didn’t believe in our vision, the staking numbers wouldn’t be as significant as they are today.
We are also open to discussing our approach. It’s true that we are building in the shadows rather than being fully public, and this is intentional. If anyone doubts our legitimacy as a team or project, we are more than happy to provide all necessary documentation, or any evidence needed to prove our work. If desired, we are also willing to host a session to showcase the progress of our games. Yes, games—plural. We were not meant to mention it here, but like mentioned we have our planned campaigns. And i will it only mention once, and than not here in this context anymore.
We’re developing two titles:
- A fast-paced, action-packed survivor-style game with extensive on-chain mechanisms, YOKI NFT integration, and rewarding gameplay loops for players. This game will serve to generate continuous engagement and events while we work on…
- The main title, our RPG.
We hope this clears up your concerns and provides more clarity about our work. A friendly discourse is always welcome, and even thoughts about delisting due to lack of on-chain activity are a valid discussion topic. And yes we always discussed how we approach the web3 part of our game, seems you clearly didnt read any of our proposals. We’re happy to explore whether that’s the right direction for the community and ecosystem as a whole. However, baseless accusations and hostile behavior only serve to waste everyone’s time—time we would prefer to spend on building and contributing to the Astar ecosystem.
I disagree with almost nothing, be patient but you received 50k to not even have an mvp, yes a web2 company would have done better, you talk about quality, well you could talk technically about why you need time for this quality. It is still a technical discussion, no one says you have to do it every day, of course, but you are FAR FROM THIS.
Hoping for a friendly discussion does not make you more appreciable in my eyes, for me astar for now in terms of investment-result, has made a huge mistake on you. Saying that you will make GAMES and not specifying even this time what you are working on, a bit like the trailers and images is absolutely insignificant.
I await the response on the distribution of nfts to stakers, has it happened?
Thats good, but im assuming your meaning something else.
Within that i will conclude my discussion with you.
Have a nice day.
Do I have to agree with you to get an answer?, so no airdrop. I understand.
@Maarten @you425 @GuiGou @tksarah @AstarHood @bao and other ambassador, can we have some control here? or should we let the discussion open indefinitely and unanswered?
Hi Zorounashi
As mentioned before, I haven’t had time to look closer in to this project. As long they are still part of the UCG the decision should be done through those running the program.
I’m not sure if they are still part of this program or not?
I can’t understand why on some dapps everyone pretends not to understand. It’s not just a matter of ucg, (they are not anymore, they are just in the wrong category, apparently by choice) but of much more. I am personally writing on all the dapps that I consider not in line with the regulation, as it should have been. Before accusing I wrote a series of very important points, that no one seems to read for each project. Above I wrote a long list of things that have not been completed. thanks.
SkyLab is already not a UCG target, so its status as listed under “Unstoppable Gtants” in dApp Staking is incorrect.
Also, the current dApp Staking target applications are as described in the documentation(The content is a little dated, but the general framework should remain the same.).
“Your dApp is launched and live on Astar Network”
I think SkyLab should be de-listed once because it is a game project and does not meet the above criteria. If there are no other comments, I have no problem proceeding with the vote.
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Dear Astar Community and Supporters,
I am Akin, the founder and Game Director of Skylab Studios, and I want to start by expressing my gratitude to everyone in the Astar ecosystem who has supported us on this journey. Normally, I’m more in the background—focused on building and creating—so speaking out like this isn’t something I often do. However, this is an important moment for Skylab Studios, and I feel it’s necessary to address the situation directly.
Acknowledging Valid Concerns
I want to acknowledge @you425 and several community members’ recent concerns regarding Skylab Studios’ lack of on-chain activity. He is 100% correct. At this time, we do not have the on-chain activity that validates us as a dApp deserving of a place on the dApp staking list. This is a crucial point, and we take it seriously.
We deeply value @you425 feedback and appreciate his willingness to voice these concerns as an active and dedicated member of the Astar community. It’s this kind of engagement that strengthens the ecosystem, and we’re grateful for his input.
Our Efforts and Challenges
Since early this year, we have been working diligently on the migration of our NFT collections to Astar. While this has always been a priority for us, we’ve faced numerous setbacks along the way. These challenges, while difficult, have only reinforced our commitment to getting things right.
We don’t want to shift blame for the delays—this is our responsibility, and we have been constantly working to address the issues. Now, we are finally on the best path to finalize the migration and bring our plans to fruition. This migration is critical to ensuring we meet the ecosystem’s expectations and can contribute meaningfully to Astar’s growth.
A Request for a Grace Period
With this in mind, we humbly request a grace period of 2-3 weeks to complete the migration of our NFT collections and meet the requirements necessary to validate our place as a dApp on the staking list.
If we are unable to meet these obligations within the given timeframe, we will voluntarily delist ourselves and reapply only after fully addressing all requirements. This reflects our commitment to accountability, transparency, and respect for the community’s trust.
Gratitude and Reflection
The dApp staking program has been pivotal to Skylab Studios’ journey. Over the past year, it has allowed us to build and innovate within the ecosystem. While we may have fallen short in some areas, we remain steadfast in our dedication to the Astar ecosystem and its long-term success.
Additionally, we’ve compiled a yearly recap document highlighting the work we’ve been able to achieve, thanks to the support provided by the dApp staking program. This reflection underscores the progress we’ve made and our dedication to building for the Astar ecosystem’s growth and success.
[Skylab Progress Report 2024 - Google Docs](https://Timereport Skylab Studios 2024)
We are deeply grateful for the feedback from the community and for the opportunities we’ve had to grow within this ecosystem. It’s our goal to prove through action, not words, that we are here for the long term, ready to contribute and grow alongside Astar.
Thank you for your understanding, patience, and belief in what Skylab Studios stands for. We are committed to earning your trust and doing better every step of the way.
With respect and gratitude,
Akin
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Thank you for this post and update @AkinSkylab and I do believe this is a reasonable request and response to the current Skylabs UCG involvement.
I would like to share my personal perspective. I’ve known and collaborated with the Skylabs team way before onboarding as a core-contributor to Astar. Always humble and giving, they supported Astar Degens DAO early on back when the NFT landscape was very different than now. What I can say is that they are some of the hardest working and focused teams I’ve met, and this is saying a lot when it comes to building and enduring in this web3 environment.
Given the context of everything we’ve seen - marketing ups and downs, Kusama and Polkadot landscape, NFT scene, and more - they are doing and building out things that are not easy, and at a high quality level. Akin’s previous work speaks volumes to what we can expect. Im vocally supporting this team on my personal accord because I believe they have the chops to deliver, even if there’s setbacks - which happen. And I know that the end product will be polished and make a great first impression, something that should not be understated in this attention-competitive world. They followed through on in the Yoki campaign to deliver another Yoki Machine, going the extra step to support at the time the Astar zkEVM launch.
The offer of them delisting if migration is not delivered is a welcomed gesture and helps prove to me that they understand the situation and respect what has been established. Yes, there were oversights on all parts but the end goal is still the same - to deliver. Personally, I’ll state that I’m in favor of allowing this small request as its already a massive undertaking to migrate from Kusama to Astar. Regardless of the outcome I’m still confident in the team and excited to see all this come to fruition soon.
Lastly, as one of the initial contributors of the UCG program, I realize now that its perhaps a good time to also update its structure, and with the community look for ways UCG can improve. Not only on the team support side, but also the overall oversight that is needed so we don’t have oversights like this in the future. This all comes at a good time as we will soon see changes that lead to more community control of certain aspects of Astar through governance.
Thanks again.
Stronger Together.
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Brief clarification.
Beyond the promised migration (and it is not known why it has not yet been carried out) the whole part regarding the use of astar in the project is missing. It is not understood, it has never been defined, after a few months it could be normal, after 1 year saying that it is not there because it has not yet been addressed is serious, it means having paid with dapp staking something that concerns the development of a web2 game, which as obvious as it is, without wanting to offend the team, this thing applies to all game developers at their first experiences, will be millions of times non-competitive with any web2 entity as well as not being focused on what astar asks.
MIGRATION IS NOT WHAT PUTS THE TEAM IN ORDER FOR WHAT IT PROMISED TO DEVELOP.
The use of specific protocols were also discussed in the proposal phase, clarity is needed. We are not asking for code sharing, but to have feedback on technical development.
That said, everyone deserves second chances, and collaboration is important, if the team promises and commits to defining what it will do (but I also expect a technical discussion on this, otherwise between graphic designers who create nfts and a developer of a web3 game there would be no difference and above all a need for a contribution in terms of economic support), it is right to give a chance.
The anger that I personally express, is because it is precisely thanks to people like @0xRamz that the team currently has 30 million astar in staking, I could play whatever you want that his figure was decisive in supporting the team on an economic level.
There would be nothing wrong with that, but given that other teams have been excluded for much much much less and others could never hope to compete despite the skills demonstrated, here in my opinion the issue of double role comes into play a bit.
Personal knowledge of the team means little, the team has used UCG without properly following the rules, has used personal connections with an ambassador, and used dapp staking without updating and not fulfilling all the temporal promises made on the release, has never given the rewards for the stakers promised during the voting campaign, without caring about this in the least, and also as said above, has never defined a strategy nor worked (their words) on the blockchain side after 15 months of work.
I am personally very irritated by the sponsorship made a few posts above, I don’t like it, it is not meritocratic and makes me understand where the current 30 million staking comes from.
As for others it should be delisted and then a new proposal made… but…
Having said that, I am POSITIVE for a second chance, if the ambassadors and all those who should have checked finally did it, today we also have AstarHood among us who can give us a hand in this control.
I hope the team follows through with EVERYTHING PROMISED and provides updates on the use of astar technology and not just spoilers made perhaps with the use of AI.
Thanks for the detailed report.
I understand that game development is very time consuming and that we face many troubles in the process. However, web3 game and web2 game development are very different in the way they communicate and the need to disclose information during the development process (even more so if you are selling NFT or participating in dApp Staking), so you need to understand this.
I welcome the fact that you will be reporting monthly on this point starting next year.
You ask that we postpone it for a couple of weeks to make a decision on the delist, and I am fine with that. However, it might be better to vote once.
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Hello @AkinSkylab and thank You for participating to the discussion 
I’m a fan of role-playing games and I would have liked to have had the opportunity to play the demo last summer (following the timing and the roadmap planned at that time) I believe that as many have pointed out, the lack of delivery of the roadmap and the lack of communication is a significant damage for the team. For now I prefer to wait the 2/3 weeks required to better evaluate but I believe delisting is the most plausible option (with a future reapplication).
I would also like to ask a couple of information:
- Will Skylab Survivors be an on-chain game? Where will the blockchain functionality be implemented? It will only be used for the marketplace of the game’s items (weapons, objects or characters)
- Speaking of migration, it is understood that the migration is towards Astar zkEVM which will however be deprecated to focus on the Soneium layer. Have you then planned a further migration from Astar zkEVM to Soneium or how will it work?
- As requested several times before, I would prefer to have dates or at least quarters expected rather than a ¨it will come soon¨, do you have dates for the launch of the games?
- I think that communication and explanation managed differently is needed, I don’t understand how the games will increase the use of the Astar network. Even if the NFTs are released and there is no market/interest that generates fees for the team, I see the self-sustainability of the project as difficult. DApp staking serves as support for the devs and hopefully at a certain point each dApp will create its own user base and leave dApp staking.
I want to specify that these are not negative comments, they are just doubts that I think I will resolve with the team’s response in the coming weeks.
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Hey @VasaKing ,
Thanks so much for your detailed message and for being part of this conversation! 
We really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns—it’s clear you care about the project, and that means a lot to us.
You’re absolutely right that the delays and lack of clear communication have been frustrating, and we totally own up to that. We’re not just sitting around, though! A lot is happening behind the scenes, and we’re doing everything we can to get back on track. Transparency and building a community that’s excited about the games and Web3 aspects we’re working on is super important to us, and we’re trying to get better at it every day.
Here’s a bit more info to answer your questions:
- Is Skylab Survivors going to be an on-chain game?
At this point, we’re looking at a hybrid approach. Most likely, stuff like items, equipment, and characters will be on-chain as NFTs with marketplaces to trade them. As for making the whole game fully on-chain? That’s something we’re still figuring out. Right now, we’re cautious about adding complexity that could delay things even more, but it’s something we’ll keep exploring. - Migration to Soneium
Yep, since Astar zkEVM will be deprecated, we’ll also transition to Soneium. The good news? The migration won’t be as crazy complicated this time since both are EVM-compatible. So, while it’s still a process, it should be much smoother compared to the struggles we had with RMRK/Kusama. - Launch dates
I wish I could give you hard dates, but honestly, setting exact deadlines in this space is tricky. Things always shift as new challenges pop up, and we don’t want to keep disappointing people with delays. For now, we’re sticking to broader timeframes like quarters or halves of the year. I hope you can bear with us while we work on getting it right! - How will the games benefit the Astar network?
This is such a good question and something we think about a lot. Web3 games have had a rough reputation, but recently we’ve seen some great examples like Shrapnel and Off the Grid that are gaining traction with Web2 gamers too. Our goal is to build something that appeals to both communities. Even if it doesn’t flood the network with transactions or fees right away, it’s about showing the real utility of Web3 and growing the user base for Astar and Soneium over time.
Also, having incredible collaborators like Yuka Kitamura and Akin really helps lay the foundation for creating something unique and meaningful. We hope the Skylab IP can resonate with a broad audience and bring more people into the ecosystem.
Thank you again for your thoughtful questions! None of this comes across as negative to us—in fact, it’s super helpful to hear what’s on your mind. We love that you’re here and care enough to have this conversation. We’re all in this together, and we’re excited to keep building something awesome with you all.
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Hey @you425
Thanks for understanding and for your thoughtful response! You’re absolutely right—Web3 game development comes with its own unique challenges, especially when it comes to transparency and keeping the community in the loop. We’re learning as we go and working to strike that balance, especially since NFT sales and dApp staking make it even more important to communicate clearly. The idea of monthly updates starting next year is something we’re really committed to, and we hope it helps build more trust and clarity going forward.
As for the delist, we appreciate your willingness to give it a couple of weeks. And you’re absolutely right—having a vote on this could be a great way to move forward in a way that feels fair and transparent for everyone. We’re open to that idea.
Thanks again for your patience and support—it really means a lot to us!
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I greatly appreciate the transparency of the team — even if it takes time. I trust Ramz’s statement, but the delay bothers me a lot as a member of the community.
Does it really take a year to migrate an NFT collection to Astar? If the team cannot afford the migration, will they be able to build a competitive product? Will they manage to attract users — which is the most challenging part? I have my doubts, but I want to believe in the team’s potential and remain positive.
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The answer is NO.
the problem here, reading the answers given, is that there is no idea of how the game should be integrated with onchain actions. They always manage to divert the discussion.
If Zkevm will be deprecated, we will have to wait for Soneium and above all the rmrk team will have to enable this network, otherwise you will find yourself with a collection that cannot be seen and catalogued anywhere. Are you telling me you want to make a proprietary marketplace that makes your nfts available for sale with rmrk protocols? I wish you the best, this project will not see life before decades then.
So to recap, an answer cannot be given because it is subject to rmrk activities that will not necessarily be similar to those of skylab or astar. This will probably mean many many months of delay, just to start working… then you have to complete, and given the answers, they have no idea how to do it, they simply do not have a blockchain developer on board, they pay other teams with odd jobs…
I’m sorry but the answers were not exhaustive, indeed there is a tendency to avoid the technical discussion as always…
If having paid a recognised Japanese musician (with funds given by dappstaking) is equivalent to being more recognised than those who are engaged in the actual construction of a web3 game, just because astar is a Japanese project, we are obviously off track here… and it is useless to specify it.
This is mind-blowing after 15 months of fundraising. I repeat that everyone is greatly underestimating this thing. It is totally against every rule established here and that the team decided to follow in the proposal phase, but for what it’s worth, it is much more important to have important friendships.
In itself this approach and way of working makes one very important thing clear, the blockchain side will be secondary in this game and it is not clear how this could be otherwise.
Here the use of RMRK protocols is being taken for granted only because the Skylab team has minted nfts on Singular in the past using a network that has since been deprecated and a simplified UI.
Saying “we will make equipable objects dropped in the game thanks to the rmrk protocol” and after 15 months still not having done anything, means not having understood how complex it is to work with all the standards made available by RMRK and make them match with a game without a simplified UI. Having minted NFTs means practically nothing.
In fact, to date the people who have used these protocols and built with them, including the rmrk team, can be counted on the fingers of one hand, but in the world.
There are only 2 projects involved in this to date:
EVERL00T
AGE OF CHRONOS
Both On Moonbeam
The rest of all those who have associated their development with RMRK (I also remember Neurolanche above who had welcomed the technology, which remains incredible) in the end have not built anything.
The reason is simple, RMRK makes nfts exponentially more complex, and the same goes for development, and currently for commitment and usable funds, the game is not worth the candle for everyone. But a possible adoption of this technology should be supported and sponsored first and foremost by the ASTAR team because out there, it is the only truly innovative thing compared to the nfts 1.0 that we have been admiring since 2017, and that honestly in their uselessness have also tired.
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